When it comes to green building, it seems everybody wants to jump on the band wagon these days. The Federal Government has its EnergyStar program, many states have programs, then there’s Passivhaus, and of course LEED. The problem is, the central focus of most of these programs isn’t so much green as it is energy efficiency with a dose of waste reduction on the side. And for desert there’s an offering of green sourcing—so long as it doesn’t conflict with goal number one, that great holy grail of green building: Net Zero!

Which begs the question: At what cost Net Zero? For that matter, is Net Zero even a laudable goal? It does, after all, come with quite a cost. Setting aside the cost of achieving Net Zero, just the mad rush to do blower door testing with all its calculations that ensure every little crack is sealed up tight has led to unintended consequences. Sick House Syndrome is headed in the direction of an epidemic. Therefore, if green building is defined as cost saving, it could be argued that obsessive air sealing isn’t such a great idea. What is saved in energy is more than offset by medical costs. To which the usual rebuttal is: If you’re going to air seal, you have to have properly installed mechanical ventilation. Okay.

To paraphrase a German architect I once met: You Americans are so in love with your technology. Why don’t you just open a window? Which might be interpreted as: When your solution to a problem creates another problem which must then be solved, thus creating another problem, you have no solution at all.

But the obsession with air sealing is only the tip of the ice berg. Net Zero inevitably leads to discussions about solar.

Solar. The new ‘green tech’ darling. Even President Obama got in on the act. The question is: Just how green is solar? Solar systems are constructed of aluminum, which must be mined, glass, the silica for which must be mined, plastic, which comes from oil, and worst of all, rare earth elements, which also must be mined. The environmental consequences of rare earth mining and refining are beginning to raise alarm bells that echo of oil production—or worse. As the New York Times reported earlier this year:

Once little known outside chemistry circles, rare earth metals have become increasingly vital to high-tech manufacturing. But as Malaysia learned the hard way a few decades ago, refining rare earth ore usually leaves thousands of tons of low-level radioactive waste behind.

So the world has largely left the dirty work to Chinese refineries—processing factories that are barely regulated and in some cases illegally operated, and have created vast toxic waste sites.

So our green tech darling, solar, is leaving a trail of radioactive waste behind it. This is green?

It’s beyond time the building industry got out of the kiddie pool and began to think more holistically about green building. We need to be thinking in terms of the environment around the building; we need to be thinking about where the materials we’re building with and finishing with are coming from; we need to be thinking in terms of the environmental cost of the entire production stream for those materials; we need to be thinking in terms of community. Not just the community in which the building will sit, but the communities around the world that manufacture the materials we put into the building—and who have to live with the often toxic refuse caused by that manufacturing.

When we do that, I guarantee Net Zero will become far less important than Environmental Zero, which may make Net Zero of zero importance.

I’d like to thank Toronto Stucco Contractor Skylar Bowker for the following guest post on the benefits of applying exterior insulation to existing masonry buildings and/or masonry substrates.

Recent studies have brought to light the advantage of exterior insulation versus traditional between-the-stud insulation. Among them: the ability for insulation to be continuous (instead of broken at studs), the superior longevity of rigid insulation versus fibreglass (which becomes less effective over time) and dew-point management. But how do you adhere rigid insulation to masonry substrates? Are you out of luck if you have brick? Isn’t drilling into masonry into time consuming and cost prohibitive compared to other cladding solutions? Not with adhesive.

Insulation can be installed on masonry substrates using adhesives because of the light weight of rigid insulations such as expanded polystyrene (EPS) or extruded polystyrene (XPS). The best solution for adhering insulation to a masonry substrate is actually a cement-based adhesive, such as one offered by an EIFS manufacturer (Dryvit, Sto, Senergy). These adhesives are Portland-cement based, but are modified with an acrylic component as well as fiberglass-mesh fibers that allow the cement to expand and contract with the insulation without cracking. This ensures that the rigid insulation maintains a strong bond to the masonry substrate for decades longer than traditional cement and doesn’t delaminate.

Additionally, because the insulation is being installed over a cementitious substrate a weather barrier isn’t typically required. While a cementitious-weather-barrier will never hurt, it does add to the cost and may be unnecessary. If the masonry substrate is crumbling or coming apart however, loose pieces should be removed and a skim coat should be applied to prevent further decay.

Anyone familiar with EIFS will know of the problems of incorrectly applying the cement adhesive to the back of the insulation boards. In order to prevent moisture from becoming trapped, the modified-cement adhesive must be installed in vertical “ribbons”. Using a 1/2”x1/2” notched trowel with 2” spacing between notches, apply the ribbons in a vertical fashion, which will allow water to drain vertically once installed on the wall. The insulation boards should be installed in sheets no larger than 24”x48”, laid lengthwise, and staggered. Sufficient pressure needs to be uniformly applied to the insulation boards so that the adhesive is pressed into the wall, but not so much as to flatten the ribbons and close up the drainage channels.

Is EPS or XPS better? The answer depends on your needs. If cost is a restriction, EPS is likely the better solution with its lower costs. If space is a constraint (as is common with closely-built downtown homes), the higher density of XPS will provide an equivalent R-value with less thickness, albeit at a higher cost. For example:

• EPS
  is R=3.75/inch (2.5” for R-9)
• XPS
  is R=5.6/inch (1.5” for R-8.4)

Nearly identical R-values, but the EPS is 1” thicker than the XPS. Note that EPS and XPS can have varying densities, which will affect the R-value per inch. While having “geometrically defined drainage cavities” (grooves cut into the back) is preferred for additional drainage, it’s not absolutely required. For more information on r-values, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-value_(insulation)

There are a few systems/claddings available over the installed exterior rigid insulation boards. By far the most common is Exterior Insulation Finish Systems (EIFS, sometimes called “synthetic stucco”). To finish off an EIFS installation, alkali-resistant fiberglass mesh must be embedded into the EIFS base coat, and a finish coat applied at the very end. Various details such as control joints, proper termination at grade, flashing above wall penetrations and more need to be addressed, and as such a skilled EIFS applicator is usually recommended. A full detailed explanation is beyond the scope of this guide, but manufacturer guidelines can be found online or at distribution centers.

Heavier materials such as stone veneer, traditional stucco and brick veneer require a metal lath and possible extra reinforcing. This is beyond the scope of this guide, and the respective suppliers should be contacted for exact installation details.

Another alternative is foam-backed vinyl, which doesn’t have nearly as nice of a finish as EIFS but is more forgiving in terms of installation and can be installed/purchased at a lower cost. Vinyl siding manufacturers may or may not support the above specified installation process with a cementitious adhesive, and the manufacturer must be contacted for warranty information as well as their own installation methods.

There you have it. With the use of the proper cement adhesive, rigid insulation boards (EPS or XPS) can be installed directly over masonry substrates without the need to drill into walls. Not having a piece of metal sticking through the insulation also avoids thermal bridging, making your building as energy efficient as possible. Home owners, general contractors or architects in the Toronto area are invited to visit Toronto Stucco Contractor and contact Skylar Bowker to get a quote on having their new or existing building fitted with Exterior Insulation Finish systems.

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I’d like to thank Philip J. Reed for giving us his opinion on what constitutes green building in the following guest post. Philip works in association with the Daybreak community in Utah. He has a close personal interest in green-friendly practices and sustainable living, and will be happy to follow up on any questions you may leave in the comments below.

Green building is a popular subject these days, but do you know what makes a building green? The concept relies on much more than environmental friendliness; economic development, transportation and infrastructure, land use, and still other ideas are all part all incorporated to promote a balanced, sustainable lifestyle.

At its core, this type of construction emphasizes the smart use of resources and processes to minimize the impact a structure has on the environment. Green buildings may contain products that have been reused, recycled, or made from a renewable resource. They support a healthy indoor environment and also employ smart landscaping, such as the use of native plants that won’t require extra water. Better designs minimize heating and cooling losses in a building, and make better use of energy as well. Even construction processes are more efficient, reducing the waste produced during building.

Spikes in energy prices and a significant environmental push in the 1960s and 1970s prompted early ventures into green building in the United States. The movement was formalized in the 1990s, and has continued to blossom today. To give builders a better sense of how to construct an environmentally friendly and economically smart structure, organizations such as the National Association of Home Builders have created Model Green Home Building Guidelines to provide more understanding of what constitutes green building and techniques to use which will facilitate the process.

Homes in Salt Lake are now constructed with a greener focus, and growing numbers adhere completely to EPA Energy Star® guidelines. Sustainable communities and neighborhoods now keep community gardens, walking and bike trails, activity centers, and community pools in mind. Business owners are incorporating smart principles into the design of their buildings, and several are LEED® certified. Even construction companies are doing their part by recycling a significant amount of their waste.

Those who believe in green building are passionate about the effects these practices can have on improving human and environmental health. Building choices, neighborhood design, and green infrastructure are all concepts which can have many beneficial results reaching far into the future.

References:

Daybreak Utah

U.S. EPA

U.S. Green Building Council

EPA Green Building FAQ

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Christopher G. Hill (@constructionlaw) is lawyer and owner of the Richmond, VA firm, The Law Office of Christopher G. Hill, PC, a LEED AP. Mr. Hill has been nominated and elected by his peers to Virginia’s Legal Elite in the Construction Law category on multiple occasions. He specializes in mechanic’s liens, contract review and consulting, occupational safety issues (VOSH and OSHA), and risk management for construction professionals.  Mr. Hill authors the Construction Law Musings blog where he discusses legal and policy issues relevant to construction professionals.  Additionally, Mr. Hill is active in the Associated General Contractors of Virginia and the Construction Law and Public Contracts Section of the Virginia State Bar.

First of all, thanks to Michael for the opportunity to guest post. Please check out his post at Construction Law Musings here.

Lately, there has been a lot of news in the green building world relating to law suits and other liability nightmares relating to green building. The Destiny USA debacle relating to the green bonds program and the failure of a contractor to meet its sustainable building promises is one major issue. Another is the collapse of the Chesapeake Bay Foundation HQ in Maryland. All of this sudden liability related activity in the sustainable building area of construction could lead to two possible outcomes.

The first of these outcomes is the doomsday scenario. To wit (yes I said that, I am an attorney after all), the wonderful momentum built up over the last few years will come to a screeching, and unfortunate halt. Despite my Eeyore like tendencies and related posts on the subject, this is the worst possible outcome. Sustainable building is a great idea, liability concerns aside. To stop now because of issues that have always existed, yet have just recently reared their ugly heads would be a mistake.

The second, and healthier (in many ways) outcome is a learning curve and the use of these solid examples to assure that these types of outcomes do not repeat. Smarter folks than I have been screaming from the rooftops that such outcomes could occur if not taken into consideration. The problem has always been that no concrete examples had been available until now.

With these concrete examples we can now examine and better plan for the range of outcomes in a manner that is not merely the speculation of green building attorneys and other advocates who can be written off as a group of chicken littles. My hope is that, far from derailing the entire enterprise, those of us who advocate green building will learn and plan in a manner that can make green building sustainable for the future in a relatively liability free manner.

Of course, in an uncertain world, no such assurance is possible, but we can sure try.

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A couple of weeks ago a chap named Jim Wright wrote a post in his blog titled America: You Keep Using That Word. It went viral. In a followup Jim asked a very good question: So, what do you love about America? No, not as in the usual banal patriotic platitudes that flow so easily from our lips. What makes America a place you would die for? That was his question. And as Jim is a fellow veteran, I must assume he knows something about the question he’s asking, since like all vets, he chose to put it on the line, if needs be, when he swore his oath to flag and country.

I would imagine that for some, trying to discover something about America within themselves that would cause them to lay down their life for their country was difficult. For me, it was actually rather easy.

America loves a good fight. We love to argue and we’ll argue about almost anything. We’ll argue with the last call the ref made at our kid’s ball game. We’ll argue about where the neighborhood skate park should go, how big it should be, what it should look like. Hell, we’ll even argue over what color to paint it. We’ll argue over road repairs, sewer updates, the kinds of trees the city should plant along the roads; we’ll argue with cops and shop owners and our own government. And when we really get cracking, we’ll even throw the bums out – even if that bum happens to be our president. It wasn’t too long ago that some of these fights got physical. A little over a century ago there were actually duels fought right in the Senate Chamber! Duels amongst Senate or House members out on the grounds were not uncommon, and they were legal.

And yet, for all of that, we’re still a nation. I’ll never forget Congressman Tip O’Neil’s comment as President Nixon got on Marine One to leave the White House for the last time. We just impeached a president. The leader of the most powerful nation on earth. And yet there was no gun fire, no riots, and no military coupe. (I’m paraphrasing, I’m sorry. I don’t remember the quote.)

For all our love of a good fight, for all our differences great and small, in the end, somewhere deep down in side know we are one and the same thing: We’re Americans. And I don’t know that there has been another group of people quite like us, who will happily fight and argue amongst ourselves until we’re blue in the face, and yet still stick together like glue when things get tough, since classical Greece.

Yes, it’s true that almost all modern countries now give their citizens a right to politically express themselves. But here, we enshrined it our Constitution. We consider the right to express our opinion, individually and in groups, almost as sacred as life’s breath. And the gods be damned should anyone try to abridge that right! A case in point was the Supreme Court’s recent decision to uphold a church’s right to picket veteran’s funerals. What that little fundamentalist church was doing to those families was horrible. The nation was outraged by their behavior. But I don’t know anybody who couldn’t just shake their head at the Court’s dilemma. They knew the court had no choice. They didn’t like it, but they understood it.

We may not like what that other idiot says. In fact, we may just go punch him in the nose over it. But by god, we’ll fight you to the death if you try to take away his right to say it.

And that, my friends is worth fighting for. That rare gift is worth dying for. That’s what I love about this loud mouthed, scrappy, hard nosed, belligerent country we named the United States of America.

As green building increases in popularity, the importance of good and reliable certification programs also increases. Some would argue that they already exist. I partially agree. Despite the popularity of some programs, I see major flaws in the existing programs. Some flaws are the exact same ones that exist in the normal building inspection process. Others, while epidemic amongst green building certification programs, are less common in the non-profit sector as a whole.

The Fox Guards The Hen House

One major problem with green certification programs is that these non-profit corporations function exactly like for profit corporations. They lobby legislatures to pass laws forcing citizens to use their programs, programs that those citizens have to pay for either directly, as an added project cost, or indirectly as tax payers. (The latter meaning the legislature pays for the program, usually through a rebate program funded by tax dollars or bonds, a cost that still comes back to the citizens.) They charge building owners to pay to enter the program; they require inspectors to pay to go through their training program; and they often hold the purse strings to the property owner’s receipt of monetary benefits (cash rebates or lower interest rates or whatever) for building or renovating green. In some cases they’re empowered to hold the monetary hammer over the contractor’s head, preventing him or her from being paid a bonus until they’re satisfied. Each program is a veritable cash cow for the non-profit. Especially if they can get the program legitimized or mandated by some state legislature – or better yet, a federal agency.

Which brings us to the second problem: The fox guards the hen house. The same non-profit that develops the certification program is the one lobbying for it, providing training certification (a certification that must be regularly renewed, of course), and is responsible for quality control of its own program. It’s an internal system with no external checks and balances. Buyer beware!

A Suite of Solutions

Non-Profits Should Act Like Non-Profits: I spent nearly twenty years on the boards of directors of various non-profit corporations, usually in the capacity of an executive officer of some sort. Some of the non-profits were funded primarily by foundation grants, others by memberships through annual dues. Had we, as a board of directors, attempted to act like the green building certification non-profits and develop an income producing product, our funders would have probably had a fit. Yes, depending on the exact type of 501c3 being created it can be legally done. But in my twenty years of experience in the non-profit community, selling products and services like a for-profit was considered very bad form, at least, and down right rude, at worst.

Green building non-profits could do themselves a world of good by acting a lot more like the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and a lot less like Goldman Sachs. Fund your programs the way everyone else does: Via grants and membership dues from the construction industry, not by charging every home owner who wants a certification and every contractor who wants training thousands of dollars. While it might be reasonable, and even good policy, to ask home owners and contractors to become members, those annual dues should be less than three digits. Don’t even talk about making them four digits.

Use Third Party Verifiers and Certifiers: Let’s get the fox out of the hen house, shall we? Program compliance inspectors should be completely independent of both the certifying non-profit and the architectural/engineering/construction (AEC) team. And it is they, not the program creator, that should determine whether or not a project complies with the terms of the certification program being sought – and at what level. Ideally the program inspector will have been brought in on the project early, and so on one level they are as much partner as an inspector. But that is, in my opinion, all to the good. Green certification verifiers are not building department inspectors. They serve a different purpose amongst a group of professionals who, in theory, are all trying to achieve the same goal for the customer.

Certifiers/Inspectors Should Be AEC Professionals: Building science is, well, a science. It takes training, education, and experience to master, and there’s always something new to learn. The notion that you can take some random green activist off the street, put them through a class on some green building certification program or other, and suddenly they’re a ‘building professional’ is rather disturbing. If you’re not a licensed architect, engineer, or contractor, you probably don’t a sufficient background in the building sciences to be an inspector/certifier. In fact, I’ll even go one step further: I think the day is coming when inspectors will have to be specialized, just like contractors and engineers, in order to stay up to date in their field.

Program Creators Should Be Prevented From Lobbying: I know. I’m dreaming, right? If we can’t keep the CEO of GE out of the Oval Office, how can we expect to keep BPI out of Congress? But I’ll continue to dream, if you don’t mind.

It’s A Matter of Trust

Contractors are, of a necessity, a distrustful bunch. They have their ways of doings things. Ways they’ve built up year after year. It may not be the right way – or maybe it is. But one thing is certain: It’s the way they’ve found that doesn’t fail a building department inspection or create call backs. So when it comes to asking a contractor, whose profit margins are already low, to change his ways, the one asking better have some ‘cred’. And you don’t have to wade through too many construction forums to discover that most current green building programs are, to put it mildly, disliked.

Non-profit used to be about public service, about charity, about improving society by solving problems that the for-profits can’t, or won’t solve. They weren’t about making money or market share. They were about getting in and helping folks help themselves. It’s that selfless public service component that gives the non-profit sector a lot of its credibility and makes it a powerful force for good in our society. The sooner green building non-profits get back to those basics by acting like they really care about the building industry and our society, rather than their pocketbook, the sooner they’ll be embraced by the industry they’re trying to change.

I was cruising my local Craigslist the other day and noticed a few adds by “handyman” types who were peddling their fix-it-all services for as little as $8/hour. Now, I realize that things are bad in my local area. Official unemployment figures for our area are several points higher than the State overall, which in turn is higher than the National numbers. But…  $8/hour? Really?

Some readers may remember my article from a few years ago entitled He Can’t Do It For That where I point out the potential problems customers can find themselves in when hiring someone who doesn’t know the difference between running a business and working for wages. Now, some may say, there’s a big difference between hiring a contractor for a major job and hiring someone for a small job like changing a light fixture of fixing a leaky toilet. Thing is, the rules of running a business don’t care how large the ticket price is. They remain the same.

Consider, if these folks are charging you, the customer, $8/hour to work, then here in California their “take home pay” is going to roughly $4/hour (the cost of payroll runs nearly 50% of wages paid here in California, and unlike employees, the self-employed have to pay it all themselves). Out of that $4/hour they have to pay for the gas and upkeep on the truck that brought them to your house, they have to pay maintenance and upkeep on the tools, they have to keep their truck stocked with the long laundry list of consumables that you, the customer, never get charged for like plumbers putty, pipe dope, tape, screw caps, screws, nails, saw blades, sand paper, solvents, rags, hand cleaner, and so on. And we haven’t even touched the “back office” overhead that even a one-truck Johnny has in the way of forms, bookkeeping, sales and income tax, and what not. So, after all of that, what would be left?

Let’s work a simple example: I’ll pretend to be one of these folks. Let’s say I come to your house to reset your leaky toilet. You’re 10 miles away and my work truck gets 14 miles per gallon (about what a Toyota Tundra gets). I show up. The clock is running.

• Once the toilet is up I discover that the seals on the supply line are shot. You’ll need a new one.
• I head to the hardware store to get you one. I’m working for only $8/hour dude, the clock is still running.
• The hardware store is 3 miles away. That’s a 6 mile round trip.
• I get back, reset the toilet with a new wax seal, hook up your new supply line, and I’m done.
• Total time for the job? Let’s be generous (to me) and say 90 minutes. An hour and a half.

So you own me $12 for my labor. Assuming I’m smart enough to mark up the wax bowl seal and the supply line, I might make another $2 there. So my gross income on the job is $14. After the tax man takes his cut, I’ve made $7. That’s $4.67/hour! Half of minimum wage! I ran my truck 26 miles total to do your job and get back home. At 14 mpg on my truck I burned 1.9 gallons of gas. Our local gas price (as of this writing) is $4.15/gallon, so the gas I burned in my truck cost me $7.89.

So already, without even figuring in overhead costs on my truck for things like insurance, lube oil and filters, tires, and so on, I’m in the hole. And I haven’t even begun to touch the cost of tools or consumables! (How many rags did I go through in lifting that toilet, for example? Or, did I have to add screws to the closet flange because it was loose?) And we’re not touching the cost of bookkeeping and accounting.

Now, ask yourself: What if something had gone wrong? What if I had dropped the toilet tank and cracked it? I owe you a new tank, if I can find one. Probably I’d have to buy you a new toilet. A cheap toilet runs $100. I’m working at a loss; do you really think I’ve got the resources to buy you even a cheap $100 toilet, never mind the nice one I just broke that probably cost 4 times that?

Unlikely!

Or, what if I had no idea what I was doing and totally screwed up the job? I’m working for (roughly) 1/8th the rate a licensed plumber works for, after all. So the probability I’m at least partially clueless is very good.

And because I, in this fictitious example, am unlicensed and unbonded, if something does go wrong you really have no recourse against me other than small claims court. But even if you won your case – and you probably would – your chances of collecting on the judgment are very small.  You didn’t hired a legitimate business working on a legitimate business model that allows a margin of profit to accumulate to cover little jobsite contingencies such as a broken toilet. You hired someone whose gross labor rate doesn’t even cover the bare costs of running the business, never mind leaving any money to take home to the family.

But that’s the very real risk you take when you hire a non-professional to work for you at or below minimum wage.

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Yesterday Michael was “twitterviewed” by the good folks over at Integrity Window. What follows is the twitter transcript of the interview:

Welcome to #buildchat. This week, we're happy to have green builder Michael Matson (@TheGreenBuilder) join us. Hi Michael!

March 9, 2011 3:00 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow Greetin'z. Sounds like fun. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:03 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@TheGreenBuilder What’s the biggest misconception about green building? #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:03 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow In my particular market: That old building methods R somehow "green" while newer building technologies are not. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:06 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow I'm often asked to do "strawbale" or "cordwood" or "adobe". #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:07 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow While those methods may (or may not) be green -- depending on sourcing -- they're certainly not as durable. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:08 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow The other mythoconception is that green = more expensive. It can, but that's not a universal truth. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:09 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@TheGreenBuilder You use the phrase “a healthier home.” What makes a home healthy? #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:12 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow Lack of toxins in the environment. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:14 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Toxins can come from a variety of sources -- including the inhabitants. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:15 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow In building 2 of the most common sources of toxins are paint and flooring. But that's hardly an exclusive list. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:16 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow But pollen & dust mites and other things can also b present in the home. Air flow is critical to a healthy home. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:19 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@TheGreenBuilder Which climates provide the best opportunity for green building? And the worst? #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:19 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow Right now the home building market definitely seems short of opportunities - in my market anyway. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:21 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Some kinds of commercial building seem to be shaping up, and some of those projects are green. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:21 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow I kind of touch on that in this article: http://bit.ly/gYgTuT #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:23 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@TheGreenBuilder With spec homes so scarce, how and when should builders experiment with green building? #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:25 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow That's a tough one in any environment, thanks to our lovely tort system. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:27 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow My preference has always been to experiment with the customer's permission. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:29 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Something they're interested in pushing the envelope on, knowing they're out there, #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:29 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Pushing the technological envelope #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:30 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@TheGreenBuilder What drives decision-making for your clientele: Cost or conscience? #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:33 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow In a word: Yes. :) #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:36 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow I haven't had a client yet where vision and cost didn't collide at some point in the process. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:36 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Sometimes easily, sometimes grudgingly. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:37 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Now more than ever folks in my market R pinching pennies. Green has 2 equal savings 4 it even to be considered. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:38 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@TheGreenBuilder Look into your crystal ball: Where is green building in 2021? #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:41 pm via webReplyRetweetFavorite

@integritywindow

Integrity Windows

@integritywindow Dude! I'll be retired. :) #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:43 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

@TheGreenBuilder

Michael Matson

@integritywindow Seriously tho. It'll be the building standard for all buildings that contain conditioned space I should imagine. #buildchat

March 9, 2011 3:43 pm via yoonoReplyRetweetFavorite

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Michael Matson

@integritywindow And it will affect those that don't have conditioned space (garages, etc.) to the extent that toxic chemicals, #buildchat

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Michael Matson

@integritywindow are, even now, being removed from building materials. #buildchat

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Michael Matson

That's it for this #buildchat. Thank you @TheGreenBuilder for taking the time.

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Integrity Windows

@integritywindow You're welcome. #buildchat

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Michael Matson

Okay, I couldn’t read this article in the LA Times without commenting on it. It’s a story book case of what happens when enthusiasm backed by no more than an academic understanding of the building sciences is turned loose on a complex project. This quote from the article says it all:

He overestimated how much power the colleges could generate. He underestimated the cost. And he poured millions of dollars into designs for projects that proved so impractical or unpopular they were never built.

Long time readers of this blog probably know my mantra well: All the college degrees in the world don’t replace experience and bucket loads of common sense. Unfortunately we live in a time where certificates are often considered more important than achievement,  rather than as a foundation for it. I know of one young person who now runs her own sustainable consulting business – right out of college! She has no real world experience working in her field under the supervision of a seasoned veteran. Someone who knows what really works, and what is just, like the case cited above, a utopian pipe dream. And from what I’ve seen of her advice – which her clients pay for, remember – it shows more similarity to the later than the former.

The LEED AP program seems to be another prime example of education trumping real world experience. I can’t think of not one builder who is a LEED AP. I know lots of lawyers, activists, and consultants who have the certificate. I know of exactly one engineer who has the certificate. But I know of not one person whose profession it is to actually construct a building that has bothered to get the certificate. (Okay, I take that back, I know of one “recovering” builder who is a LEED AP.) Is it any wonder then, that LEED found itself the target of a class-action suit?

By contrast, look at what happens when folks with real world experience are both educated and consulted. HERS, RESNET, and Minnesota GreenStar are good (but hardly exhaustive) examples. The latter was cofounded by a builder and has some of the strictest green building standards in the country. But it’s a standard that is entirely achievable because it was designed by people who – surprise! – actually build buildings for a living.

Had Larry Eisenberg implemented “his vision” by hiring professionals to work through the design and regulatory process right from the beginning, the Los Angeles Community College District might have saved $10 million in energy costs, rather than blowing it on an impossible dream.

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